i know the thread on the cauliflower and camembert soup is done but i just have to tell you............... I THINK IT SAVED MY LIFE !!!!!
Finally something yummy and tasty after 3 days on liquids.

Here's a sweet "soup" for those who are sick of the savouries - sounds more like a cocktail to me but hey - soup sounds healthier!!! Got this recipe out of a great book that was recommended on this site (sorry, can't remember where or by whom...) "Recipes for Life After Weight-loss Surgery" by Margaret M Furtado:

Chilled Honeydew Soup with spearmint

"This cold soup is a summertime crowd-pleaser! It can be served as an appertizer, between courses to clear the palate, or as a light dessert". Makes about 8, 1/2 cup servings.

1 Honeydew Melon
1/4 cup (60ml) lemon juice
1/2 cup (120ml) cooking sherry or alcohol-free white wine
2 tablespoons chopped spearmint leaves

Cut the melon in half and scrape out and discard the seeds. Using a tablespoon, scrape all of the flesh into a food processor fitted with a metal S blade. Add the lemon juice, sherry or wine, and chopped spearmint. Puree the mixture just until it has a liquid consistency. Place into a 3litre container with an airtight lid and chill in the fridge for at least 1 hour. Stir and serve in chilled desert bowls or martini glasses. Garnish with spearmint leaves if desired.

Sounds yummy to me!

Broccoli and Zucchini soup

1 head broccoli
2 zucchini
2 tsp oil
1 clove garlic
4 cups chicken stock (made with a stock cube is fine)
1 small can evaporated skim milk
Optional: 1/4 cup extra skim milk powder to boost protein content

Cut up broccoli and zucchini, and saute to soften in oil (about 5 mins). Add crushed garlic and saute for another 30 seconds. Add stock and bring to the boil. Simmer for 15 minutes, or until the vegetables are really soft. Blend with a stick blender. Add can evaporated skim milk and skim milk powder if using. Blend again. Warm up carefully (don't boil), check seasoning and serve with black pepper.

Barramundi and Vegie Soup

Ingredients
1 small steamed fillet of barramundi
2 steamed florets broccoli
5/6 bites sized pieces of steamed carrot
8 chunks of Woolworths own brand frozen mashed potato
2 tablespoons of frozen chopped onions
About 300mls of low fat milk
Garlic salt
Chippy salt

Method
Put the frozen mash and onion in a bowl with a couple of shakes of
garlic and chippy salt. Zap for 2 mins in the microwave. Stir well
zap for another minute, mix well and then add half the milk and mix
again.
Put the vegies and fish in a Magic Bullett or blender with other half
of the milk. Zap for about 10 seconds until smooth. Tip into a larger
bowl. Put the mash mixture into the Magic Bullett or blender and zap
until smooth. Pour into the bowl with fish mixture. Mix together well.
If it's too thick add a little more milk.
Pour a portion into a bowl and zap for about a minute in the microwave.
Store the rest until needed or freeze.

Sweet Potato Soup

Ingredients
1 kg sweet potato (peeled and chopped)
1 onion (roughly chopped)
1 head garlic (broken into cloves and peeled)
1 tablespoon olive oil
6 cups chicken stock
250 g cream cheese (light cubed)
1/4 teaspoon salt (or to taste)
1/4 teaspoon pepper (or to taste)
6 teaspoons parsley (for garnish)
6 slices ciabatta (or other crusty bread to serve)
Directions
1Preheat oven to 200°C.
2Toss the sweet potato, onion and garlic in oil.
3Place on a lined oven tray and bake in oven to bake for 20 - 25 minutes or until tender.
4Place the roasted vegetables in a large saucepan with stock and bring to the boil and then remove from the heat and allow to cool slightly and then blend with a stick blender in the pot or in batches in a food processor and return to the pot.
5Whisk in the cream cheese into the soup until smooth and simmer for a further 5 minutes until well heated.
6Season to taste and serve in bowls and garnish with parsley and serve with crusty bread.

It has some protein and is yum. I made it with a variation....no garlic.....

Hi everyone

Was sleeved on 19 Oct and seem to be doing well. Bit of pain, naturally, and only mildly concerned I seem to be able to tolerate more fluids than normal (if there is such a thing as normal).

A recipe I'm finding really good right now is carrot soup. The ginger in it is a great tummy settler. I used it a lot pre surgery whilst doing opti. Post surgery I've not put in as much pepper as I normally would, and I'm using chicken stock to thin it out.

Recipe as follows:

1 tbs olive oil
1 leek, halved lengthways and thinly sliced
6 carrots, peeled and chopped
4cm piece of ginger, peeled and grated
2 cups vege or chicken stock
2 cups water
light sour cream to serve (optional)

Heat the oil in a large, heavy based saucepan. Add leeks, carrot and ginger and cook uncovered stirring occasionally until soft (approx 10 mins). Add stock and water to pan, cover, and bring to the boil. Reduce heat and simmer, covered, until carrots are very tender (approx 30 mins). Remove from heat and cool slightly, adding cracked balck pepper and sea salt to taste. Put through a food processor or blender until the desired consistency is achieved. More water or stock may be required for post surgery liquid stage. Serve with a swirl of light sour cream if desired.

Hope you enjoy it as much as I do.

Lizzie

Good on you Libby..... if I had stayed one more night I would have had something very similar in hospital!! It's so good you feel up to it too!

I have just cooked the much discussed Cauliflower and Camembert Cheese soup.

OMG it was fantastic. I added a teaspoon of garlic for extra taste.

I can highly recommend it. And i'm sure the 6 or 7 teaspoons that I can manage at the moment isn't going to be to high in fat or calories.

My husband loved it and my daughter even ate some (even though she tells me she does't like cauliflower).

I'm going to try the roasted cauliflower and curry soup tomorrow.

You can also add a couple of spoonsful of LSA to your soups, that will increase the protein and fibre levels. It's also high in Omega 3 & 6.

Marion

Evening Mapmar

gosh where were you when i was going through the liquid stage !!!!
these are beautiful recipes & would be great for the first few weeks after the op

The only consideration i will mention is that there is a debate
that hairloss (usually starting about month 3-4 - some dont have any at all & others shed copiously)
can be caused by either the body's reaction
to the surgery or due to a lack of protein intake
.... it might even be due to both !

so i would be tempted to add beef stock instead of vegetable stock
and/or add an unflavoured protein powder

... you could easily thicken these recipes up too
as an easy transitional food/liquid into the puree stage

they sound delish & divine & i am going to keep a note of them for soups even now
i think they might even be tasty served really cold for in the middle of our hot summers

hugs & well done gal!
Bella.....xx

[left]Broccoli, Leek & Cream Cheese Soup

50g Leek
85g Broccoli
½ pt Stock
Seasoning
35g Light Cream Cheese

Chop up leeks and broccoli. Add to pan with stock and seasoning, boil for 10-15 mins. Drain liquid (keep some back to create desired consistency later)
Blitz veg till smooth then add half cheese allowance of light cream cheese and blitz altogether. If the soup is too thick to your taste use some of the liquid you saved to thin it down.

Here is a recipe for a lovely soup..... I have not had surgery yet, so I will let the people who have had surgery tell us if it would be okay to have or not!!! I am going through some of my recipes to see if there are some nice ones... if so I will put them on here!

Roasted cauliflower and curry soup
Ingredients
1 head cauliflower, cut into florets
3 onions, sliced
1 1/2 teaspoons curry powder (or your favourite curry mix)
2 cups water
2 cups chicken broth or vegetable broth
2 tablespoons fresh parsley, chopped
1 teaspoons salt
cream cheese

METHOD
1. Preheat your oven to 450 degrees.
2. Spray the cauliflower florets in the olive oil and 1 tsp salt, and then spread on a baking sheet.
3. Roast cauliflower until it turns brown, about 25 minutes.
4. Add onions to medium size sauce pan that has been sprayed with olive oil and cook onions until soft.
5. Add curry powder, cauliflower, water and broth to pan.
6. Cover and bring to a boil.
7. Uncover, reduce heat and simmer for 5 minutes.
8. Add cream cheese and heat until melted.
9. Using a stick blender, CAREFULLY blend the soup, until smooth

Hi all

Does anyone have any good recipes for high protein soups?

Im trying to get as prepared as possible and wondered if anyone had some good ideas other than protein shakes to eat so I wont get bored when I start my two week liquid diet. I did buy some high protein soup but thought it would be a good idea to know a few recipes too!

Lets just say Im not the best cook in the world and my other half, well....... he can put things in the oven but thats about it lol, so the easier the recipe the better.

Thanks

Thanks Caz

will take a look!

:)

I started mushies after 2 weeks - check people's diaries and you'll get an idea what we had at each stage.

I know how you feel!!!

HELP!!! :)

i'm 2 weeks post op on saturday,and really getting sick of liquids :(

my DR said to stay on liquids for 2 weeks,or until i see him at the post op appointment,but that isn't until 10th july which by then i will have been on liquids for almost 4 weeks!!!

i am full with the liquids but am starting to want to CHEW something!! :)


when is it ok to start a bit more mushier foods...or when do ppl in general start???


cheers
Lauren.

I'll try! thanks :D

if you had no problems with tomato soup prior to op there should be no reason not eat to now. Have a tiny bit andsee how it goes

Hi everyone! how are you doing?
I've got my op 20 days ago and I have lost 8 kilos :D
Well, I'm in the mashed or baby food process, but I would like to have some tomato soup, but I'm a little scared. I have tolerated the mashed food pretty good, but what about the tomato soup, is it irritateting?

Just to change the topic here - I'm just home from hospital and have found a quick and easy thing to have.

Take one of those blister packs of pumpkin or carrot and corriander type soups you can get from the supermarkets.
Put it in a container.
Make up one meal replacement type soup - I'm using Celebrity Slim beef - and mix it into the container of soup.
It gives some protein in a nice-flavoured vege soup.

I'm then having about 200 ml per meal.

I will get around to making up some home-made soups - but this is a great alternate if you don't have time, or run out.

Has anyone else tried anything like this - I still have a week to go on liquid and am getting sick of much of what I can have (already).

Caz

Sigh... i wish i'd never opened this thread.

Rice, I don't know if you are talking to me, or just putting your opinion out there to share with the world. But i'll answer you anyway. I apologise in advance if it comes across somewhat tart. But the whole thing has caused me quite a bit of distress and just because something doesn't upset one person doesn't mean it won't upset another.

No one knows i am having an operation, let alone what it is for. I am a stay at home mum, so i don't have to worry about what anyone says. I only need to answer to my self, but if anyone did question my food choices i would point out that what i eat or don't eat is none of their buisness. As far as i have ever noticed i don't have any deeper issues, apart from being a hermit, and i know what causes that. And.. more significantly,i am not the only one who was offended by Kal's post. While it is true that no names were mentioned, when you join into a conversation then you are talking to those people. And when you so forcefully express the opinion that you think something is that aborhent, that opinion falls onto the people in the conversation. If they are doing the very thing that you find so completley disgusting then those people are disgusting by association. Thats basic phycology (sp), as you no doubt know.

Kal,

Your post felt aggressive and read like a lecture right from the start to the Don't eat shit etc at the end. It may well be your own opinion. But when a post is added into a conversation without being addressed to a particular person then all the people who were involved in the preceeding conversation would naturally think it was directed at them. I am a firm beliver in everyone being entitled to their own opinion, however i also beleive that you can have an opinion and still remain tactfull and plesant, especially in an environment where what is being said can only be read.

For anyone who is interested. I actually sat down today and worked it out. There is 200g in a wheel of camembert. I checked while i was at the shop today! 200g divided by 8 one cup serves is 25g of cheese per serve. That is equivilant to ONE CHEESE SLICE!

If a dietition told me that one cheese slice was an unsatisfactory food choice, then i would be wondering where s/he got her degree. Thats like saying you can't eat one slice of bread because there are 8 cups of flour in a whole loaf. Its not the total quantity of the ingredients, its the amount in one serve. I am wondering if both you and your dietition got so hooked up on the total quantity that you didn't put it into perspective. I have been known to do that myself, so i don't blame you. Also, 'One wheel of cheese' conjoures up an image of a 10kg wheel of Jarlesburg in my mind and i'm sure i'm not the only one, and that kind of mental image would explain the ferosity of your post.


Thankyou for your kind words everyone, it means a lot to me.. Are you surprised to know i'm never going to open this thread again, LOL!

Actually my view on the whole thing is that if people are going to react by taking anothers point of view so personally then there must be deeper issues making you feel like that! This is such a HUGE over reaction to an opinion where no names were ever mentioned.

I personally think it's something you are going to have to get used to. If people know you have had WLS and see you eating something that is high fat and make a comment, how are you going to deal with that. What if you are at work and decide to have a caramel slice for the first time in 6 months for lunch instead of something that is nutrionally better and they say DIRECTLY AT YOU something like "should you be eating that"or "didn't you have surgery to lose wiehgt". What is your reaction going to be then when it is directed at you.

Hello,

Belly I must say I agree with you, on the subjuct I also felt I was being ridiculed as well, because I have eaten cream soups all week since I came home from hospital and I have lost 6.5 kgs since last saturday, and that is putting milk in all my soups just to have a nice taste not a bland water taste, and I still lost a good amount, I for one am not going to try and lose to fast like I have noticed some have done. So if that means keeping up with a cream or cheese soup so be it, more power to the tastier style not the bland, just to lose the weight faster. I am like anyone you, my stomach knows how much it can handle and right now I am only getting a 1/4 - 1/2 cup at a time and find it very satisfying.

Thanks for listening to my oppinion.
Karen

hey all,

yeah i agree with Deb about the Aussie Bakery Thread,
i participated in that .....with the intention of it being fun & silly
everyone seemd to be having a bit o' fun
then it ...lets say - "changed" .....
i didn't think it was supposed to be about views and opinions or emotions
but i may be mistaken......

please dont let that happen here........

Belly......you come across as an intelligent switched on woman ...... and so do you Kalgirl .... and you both have wonderful creative humours that have had me rolling on the floor in laughter.......and in this thread you have both got excellent and valid points of view...............

but im just wondering if perhaps Belly asking for help with a simple culinary question felt that your 2 cents worth Kal....may have come across as a lecture ? well intentioned i'm sure ...... as you are very supportive of everyone on here.....and Belly sometimes the electronic world does not portray the kind intention behind someones remarks accurately or as they wish them to be taken.........

Just a thought............and hoped i helped in some small way....we are all in this together...

Hugs to you both
Bella :))

This reminds me of the "Aussie Bakery" thread in the General Chat section.
It began innocently enough but brought out a wide range of opinions and emotions.
To each his/her own in that regard.

In the scheme of things, brie and camembert are lower fat cheeses. Cheese is a good source of calcium and protein but of course is higher in fat than some other sources of protein.

I wanted to leap in earlier Belly to try and comfort you but I thought I would see what transpired in other people's responses first.

My opinion of this recipe is that it sounds OK. In fact I was going to make it but never got around to it for the nourishing liquids stage.

The gist of the Aussie bakery thread for many was that we should enjoy all things in moderation, while others felt that a little of what foods were a problem for them previously might open up the floodgates again.

Our opinions and experiences in our weight loss journeys are all different and this forum gives us the opportunity to voice them. Both of your opinions are valid and important. Belly please do not let Kalgirl's thoughts on this matter affect your feelings of self-worth or your enjoyment of your soup. In fact I would like to know how it tastes because I still may make it at some point in the future.

Good luck with your surgery!

Kal,

I think you're over estimating the amount of cheese in this recipe.

According to this website http://caloriecount.about.com/calories-brie-cheese-i1006

125 grams of melted Brie ( couldn't find camembert) is approx 1/2 cup and approx 410 calories .
I felt it was a bit more than that, but even if its twice that its still only 1 cup of cheese to 8 cups of stock (i used 2lt) thats not a massive amount. I certianly wouldn't equate it to mainlining King Island anything. Although cheese is high in fat, its also an excelent source of calcium and also provides vitamin A and iron. And of course the rest of the soup is vegetable.

125g Cheese, 410cal
cauliflower, about 300
onion, about 40
2lt chicken stock 240
Total 990 cal in the whole pot or 124 per cup.

I wasn't really intending to sit down and eat the whole pot in one go. I have it frozen into 1 cup serves, which i doubt i'd be able to get through in a whole day at first. I also have 4 other varieties frozen, so i wouldn't even be eating it every day.

Given the extreemly low food intake of the newley sleeved, i would think something a little higher in calories would be a better choice, just so you can keep yourself going. And i hardly call 124 calories high anyway.

Your 2 cents worth has made me feel like a disgusting and stupid pig.

You're welcome Belly !

Cheese used to be a hobby of mine ....... hehe



I was a regular mouse............

Hugs
Bella

you can use 1/2 cauli and 1/2 brocholli for that soup as well. Just do it all the same as for the straight cauli one.

applesauce

Thanks Bella, you cheese expert you!

Yeah, it sounds great doesn't it, mmmmmmm

I bet it doesn't taste like optifast either!

LOL
Belly

Hey Belly,

Unless you are buying French made Brie or Camembert ..... oddly enough from the towns of Brie and Camembert then the two will taste very similar....... however, regardless of whether you have authentic Brie or not in fridge with nothing to do and nowhere to go .............. substituting it for Camembert would be fine.

good grief that recipe sounds totally yum !



Enjoy... hugs Bella :))

They the same thing one just has a stronger flavour than the other.

See this recipe good people... i am not the greatest cook, lol, could anyone tell me if i could substitute Bree for the Camembert? I have a thing of it sitting in the fridge and haven't got a clue what to use it for. Do the words unwanted gift mean anything, hehehe!

Liquefied_stars wrote:

1 ltr chicken stock 1 large cauli 1/2 onion 125gm wheel camembert cheese chopped cauli & onion & boiled in chicken stock until really soft. added salt & black pepper (and optional chilli flakes). cut cheese in half to make 2 wheels, put them in the boiling mix - stir a few minutes and when the cheese is melted lift out the skins with a wooden spoon. stir a bit longer... then tip the lot into the blender & whiz for a minute. serve with more cracked pepper on the top! so YUM.

Hi thininside
It's best if you can stick to stuff that isn't fattening, but when you're having so much trouble, I'd just be happy to get anything down!
Don't worry - you won't gain weight, or if you do, it will go again very quickly.
Once you've established that you can drink and eat again without those cramps, then you can start making better choices.
Lots of luck!
Chris

I've mentioned in my posts that I am getting severe cramps - the menstrual kind X 5 (sorry boys) everytime I sip anything. I then tried eating an ice lolli and even though I did have a couple cramps it was not as bad as when I was sipping thinned down yogurt or coconut water.... I ate a couple of lolipops too and those also didn't give me any cramps....but I am afraid that lolipops and ice lolis are high in sugar!!! WHat can I have that will not make me gain weight in the liquid stage??

If you do not want to use water to thin anything down to a more soup consitancy you can use tinned tommato soup if you are a flabour junkie ot any stock be it vegtable or chicken beef what ever :)

applesauce

Shanna - if you put some water into the baked bean mix is waters it down enough for the liquid stage.

I was doing the same with chunky tinned soups. I put them in a blender with some water to make them liquid. :)

Kaili.

Yes, Shanna, you're absolutely correct. However everyone progresses at their own rate, and different doctors suggest different things, so we all end up doing things a little differently.
Chris

I am confused. Isn't the recipe with baked beans more of a mushy stage recipe? It sounds good but I have been afraid to go anything that solid. I thought liquid stage was more like yogurt, hummus, guacamole, ices, soup.

My favorite at the monent is tomato soup, water, low fat cheese, ham and baked beans which I put in the blender and yum! I am craving meat so I at least get some meat in this. Good protein in cheese and baked beans as well. Just make sure you add enough water to make it runny enough to go down.

Apple also suggested adding braised steak and onion with baked beans and soup which is also great for protein. :)

This is nicked off the bandits site I am cooking it right now so we will see how it goes. I don't have camembert so I am using lite capel cheese and a little parmesan cheese, not quite so much cheese either and have added some french onion soup mix also.



1 ltr chicken stock
1 large cauli
1/2 onion
125gm wheel camembert cheese

chopped cauli & onion & boiled in chicken stock until really soft. added salt & black pepper (and optional chilli flakes).

cut cheese in half to make 2 wheels, put them in the boiling mix - stir a few minutes and when the cheese is melted lift out the skins with a wooden spoon.

stir a bit longer... then tip the lot into the blender & whiz for a minute.

serve with more cracked pepper on the top! so YUM.

Liquids week 2 - Oh I have just had a petit filous chocolate mousse! Lovely! and only a few burps!

hi donna, Just thought i would add that i was told not to eat corn....cos it is really hard to digest....not saying that it would cause a problem but just for the future ( mushy stage) i think after the mushies it is ok. SOme people on here are eating very little but im having about 5-6, 125-150ml meals a day....i seem to get hungry after about 2 -3 hours but it depends on what i eat im at the end of my mushy stage and i find things with pasta, le rice and porridge make me stay full for longer.

I was told that you should aim to have 6-8 meals a day in the liquid stage.

Nicole

Hey, Donna, I'm with apple - try some opti until you're ready to move on. It's very filling now! I had to go off dairy and had more optis and it worked out better for me.
Apple, I was just looking at your stats - wow!!! I can't believe how well you've done. You must be over the moon!
Chris

Donna better to eat more often than increase your food amounts up. So stick to the liquids ONLY stage. If you are hungry try optifast. It is a pain in the ass but some people can take a few days weeks or months to get that hunger hormone out of their system. The optifast should fill you up better than other stuff. Best to stick to small amounts and have it more often just for now.

applesauce

Sounds like everything is perfectly alright if not ahead of schedule on the healing front. Just try to stick to the plan and don't be tempted to move on too fast to mushies / solids until you are sure you are ready.

Hey everyone,

Can you help me please? I was sleeved 8 days ago. I am still on nourishing liquids. today i have been starving. I have just had the normal soup, yogurt and ice cream. i have had a couple of bits of corn and chicken in one of my soups I hope nothing is wrong.
Donna