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PostSubject: Re: Please Help?? would really love your feedback to help me decide on booking in the sleeve..   Tue 07 Apr 2015, 10:47 am

hi Guys,

thanks for your responses...

Ladybug...yes I've now booked my surgery for early June and having done all my research and speaking to a couple of people i truly believe its a calculated risk, one of which I'm willing to take...now I'm committed I'm actually a little excited...im sure the first few months will be challenging, but I've learnt in life that most things that you want to achieve comes with challenges...and I'm ready for them! i think if you eat well and really change your lifestyle then you should feel fine once you have adjusted...reading your comments i can truly relate so I'm looking forward to not feeling fat anymore...however there is some hard work ahead and really staying on track for the rest of our lives is part of the package....hopefully my love of a few drinks become just something i do on special occasions...its really is my downfall..and the sleeve  won't help with that at all..

sparkle & Hunter...my hubby has come around only recently although he still thinks i should do it myself...he has seen what I've done before, but he has also seen my struggles over the 20 years we have been together...he is so disciplined and only eats quality protein & veges so he has always gotten annoyed at me with my eating habits...but he wants me to be happy and just wants me to make sure i make the most of it...which of course everyone wants to do...he is also encouraging me to drop at least 5-10kgs before the surgery which id like to do....so i can get into the right headspace...so looking forward to getting on track...not sure of either of those surgeons...sorry

i wish you both the best and i will let you know how i go...

take care

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PostSubject: Re: Please Help?? would really love your feedback to help me decide on booking in the sleeve..   Mon 06 Apr 2015, 11:18 pm

Hi Maddiecandy and everyone else,

I like you have decided to do the sleeve and this site is so awesome! I have been pretty emotional the last 3 weeks since I have made my decision- everything just makes me cry because I think I only just realized how big I really am.. I know it sounds silly. I thought about doing the band years ago but never did.. I'm actually glad I didn't because I think the sleeve has much better results. I did have the Gastric Balloon years ago but it didn't help me.   I have been overweight/struggling with my weight my whole life. The only time I was Thin 65kgs was in my 20's! and that was just for a minute it seems.. I am also emotional because my husband and on think I can do it without the surgery..... they seem to be coming around. How has everyone else found it with their kids/partners? I am going to my GP today hopefully he will be on board.. and want to get this done asap.. for the last 2 years I have just given up accepted that I will be Fat my whole life and just living in denial.. Then a client came over who had the surgery done and she said it's the best thing she ever did and that I shouldn't just give up and accept the fat! So I'm not... I'm scared it's not going to work.. but how can it not? I do exercise and eat 'healthy' I just eat bucket loads... and also bucket loads of icecream which I just need to NEVER BUY AGAIN! Has anyone here used Dr david Martin or Dr Craig Taylor? I just want to be normal...
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PostSubject: Re: Please Help?? would really love your feedback to help me decide on booking in the sleeve..   Thu 26 Mar 2015, 12:24 am

Hi Maddiecandy,

Thank you for asking these questions. Like you, I eat quite healthily. I am a coeliac so i rarely eat out, never eat take-away but I have huge portions and alcohol is a weakness. I have exercised and dieted for six years now but as I have never had a weight problem before this six years, I found it really tough. I stuck with the most recent diet and exercise for over a year and lost 17 kilos, put back on 10 and gave up. I don't eat for comfort, I eat due to boredom. I never used to have large meals but since being with my partner, I am eating the same size meals as he does, and he is a big guy! 

I really loved all of the responses that everyone has provided and I will be heading to my doctors surgery on Tuesday to ask for a referal. Where are you up to in this process? Have you decided to go ahead with it? Have you booked a date?

My biggest concern over everything associated with this surgery is the unwell feeling I will face. I know there will be unwell feelings but I worry that it will never go away. I don't want to feel sick for the rest of my life. I am not even sure why this is my biggest concern.... Maybe because i was a migraine sufferer for most of my life until about four years ago when my doctor found the trigger and I no longer suffer. The thought of going back to a life of pain and nausea and illness scares me. Whilst I am fat, I actually feel healthy in the sense that I dont feel sick, just fat.

Anyway, in short, I would love to know where you are at now.

thanks :) 

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PostSubject: Re: Please Help?? would really love your feedback to help me decide on booking in the sleeve..   Sun 15 Mar 2015, 9:13 pm

Hi Nini,

thanks so much for your reply...its amazing how supportive you are, the article is great and have looked up the surgeon i have my second appointment with (Dr John Jorgensen) and so far so good...i really appreciate your time and i think its a wonderful that your here to help..

i have been overweight since i was 9 but have always done my best to diet (even at the age of 10) but almost 30 years later I'm realising exactly what the article points out...i have my appointment next week so my plan is to book in for the surgery in June so this site has been really helpful and also a little scary...

thanks again...

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PostSubject: Re: Please Help?? would really love your feedback to help me decide on booking in the sleeve..   Sun 15 Mar 2015, 9:15 am

Hi Maddiecandy,

Please don't feel guilty that you need help to lose weight. Medical research shows that 95% of dieters (no matter how healthy and sensible the diet is) will put the weight back on within two to five years. You are fighting a battle with your bodies physiology and the society we live in. You just have to weigh the pro's and con's and make the best decision you can for your health. I have copied an article you might find helpful. I don't agree with the comments at the end of this article that most people remain obese after surgery, most studies show that Sleeve patients lose at least 60 - 80% of their excess weight on average and most post-op patients I know either got to goal or  close to it. Yes, the surgery can have complications but all surgery does. The complication rate is about the same as total hip replacements 1%. This is why it is important to get a very experienced surgeon with an excellent track record - not just one that has a nice bed side manner or the one you feel "comfortable" with. Check his credentials out. Google his name - see what comes up, check out https://www.ahpra.gov.au/ which will list any serious infringements, but most of all check him out with his previous patients through sites like this. 
 
http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/obesity-research-confirms-long-term-weight-loss-almost-impossible-1.2663585

Obesity research confirms long-term weight loss almost impossible
There's a disturbing truth that is emerging from the science of obesity. After years of study, it's becoming apparent that it's nearly impossible to permanently lose weight.
As incredible as it sounds, that's what the evidence is showing. For psychologist Traci Mann, who has spent 20 years running an eating lab at the University of Minnesota, the evidence is clear. "It couldn't be easier to see," she says. "Long-term weight loss happens to only the smallest minority of people."
We all think we know someone in that rare group. They become the legends — the friend of a friend, the brother-in-law, the neighbour — the ones who really did it.
But if we check back after five or 10 years, there's a good chance they will have put the weight back on. Only about five per cent of people who try to lose weight ultimately succeed, according to the research. Those people are the outliers, but we cling to their stories as proof that losing weight is possible.
"Those kinds of stories really keep the myth alive," says University of Alberta professor Tim Caulfield, who researches and writes about health misconceptions. "You have this confirmation bias going on where people point to these very specific examples as if it's proof. But in fact those are really exceptions."
Our biology taunts us, by making short-term weight loss fairly easy. But the weight creeps back, usually after about a year, and it keeps coming back until the original weight is regained or worse.
This has been tested in randomized controlled trials where people have been separated into groups and given intense exercise and nutrition counselling.
Even in those highly controlled experimental settings, the results show only minor sustained weight loss.
When Traci Mann analyzed all of the randomized control trials on long-term weight loss, she discovered that after two years the average amount lost was only one kilogram, or about two pounds, from the original weight.

Tiptoeing around the truth

So if most scientists know that we can't eat ourselves thin, that the lost weight will ultimately bounce back, why don't they say so?
Tim Caulfield says his fellow obesity academics tend to tiptoe around the truth. "You go to these meetings and you talk to researchers, you get a sense there is almost a political correctness around it, that we don't want this message to get out there," he said.

In part, that's because it's such a harsh message. "You have to be careful about the stigmatizing nature of that kind of image," Caulfield says. "That's one of the reasons why this myth of weight loss lives on.""You'll be in a room with very knowledgeable individuals, and everyone in the room will know what the data says and still the message doesn't seem to get out."

Health experts are also afraid people will abandon all efforts to exercise and eat a nutritious diet — behaviour that is important for health and longevity — even if it doesn't result in much weight loss.
Traci Mann says the emphasis should be on measuring health, not weight. "You should still eat right, you should still exercise, doing healthy stuff is still healthy," she said. "It just doesn't make you thin."

We are biological machines

But eating right to improve health alone isn't a strong motivator. The research shows that most people are willing to exercise and limit caloric intake if it means they will look better. But if they find out their weight probably won't change much, they tend to lose motivation. That raises another troubling question. If diets don't result in weight loss, what does? At this point the grim answer seems to be that there is no known cure for obesity, except perhaps surgically shrinking the stomach. Research suggests bariatric surgery can induce weight loss in the extremely obese, improving health and quality of life at the same time. But most people will still be obese after the surgery. Plus, there are risky side effects, and many will end up gaining some of that weight back.......

cheers Nini

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PostSubject: Re: Please Help?? would really love your feedback to help me decide on booking in the sleeve..   Sun 15 Mar 2015, 4:38 am

aussiearies wrote:
Maddiecandy

It is elective surgery in that you make the decision to have it, but it could be life saving surgery if your weight is going to lead to other medical problems.

If you have, like most of us, lost weight and put it back on and usually more, time and again then think about the future medical issues for you.

Doctors do not perform this surgery for anyone.

I am nearly 6 mths out from the surgery and yes I had hair loss but that has stopped now. Yes I have reflux but had it before the surgery. Yes I have to take vitamins and supplements etc but I was doing that before as well but even if I wasn't that is a small price to pay to ensure that I remain as healthy as possible.

Re people putting weight back on one has to remember that the sleeve is a tool. We must, like many people of normal weight, watch what we eat.  You can still eat all foods but smaller portions but if you eat too much chocolate, fried foods etc, whatever it is that put weight on you, then you will put the weight back on. If you drink too much of any high calorie liquids, whether it is alcohol or not, you will put weight on.

One thing that I think I have learned is that the price of losing this weight will be vigilance. That is I will need to keep a close watch on my weight and do something if I put a kilo on, not wait until it is 5 or 10 or 20. But that is me.

You must be sure this surgery is for you. I wish you luck in your choice.
thanks aussiearies...thats a great way to look at things so appreciate your feedback...thankfully i eat pretty well, can't stomach fried foods, don't drink soft drinks or juice, not one for chocolate or cakes and cut out most starchy carbs years ago... i just eat way to much and don't know when to stop! alcohol is also a weak spot for me....id hate to think what size i would be if i ate really badly...i've been able to work hard and lose up to 30kgs in the past, but eating like a budgie and working out intensely 7 days a week is difficult to sustain for the rest of my life...but yes i agree weight loss is something we will have to be disciplined about for all our lives...i suppose i just have to do it (the surgery) and not feel bad about it and make it work! thanks so much for your time...this website has been so helpful..
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PostSubject: Re: Please Help?? would really love your feedback to help me decide on booking in the sleeve..   Sun 15 Mar 2015, 1:26 am

Maddiecandy

It is elective surgery in that you make the decision to have it, but it could be life saving surgery if your weight is going to lead to other medical problems.

If you have, like most of us, lost weight and put it back on and usually more, time and again then think about the future medical issues for you.

Doctors do not perform this surgery for anyone.

I am nearly 6 mths out from the surgery and yes I had hair loss but that has stopped now. Yes I have reflux but had it before the surgery. Yes I have to take vitamins and supplements etc but I was doing that before as well but even if I wasn't that is a small price to pay to ensure that I remain as healthy as possible.

Re people putting weight back on one has to remember that the sleeve is a tool. We must, like many people of normal weight, watch what we eat.  You can still eat all foods but smaller portions but if you eat too much chocolate, fried foods etc, whatever it is that put weight on you, then you will put the weight back on. If you drink too much of any high calorie liquids, whether it is alcohol or not, you will put weight on.

One thing that I think I have learned is that the price of losing this weight will be vigilance. That is I will need to keep a close watch on my weight and do something if I put a kilo on, not wait until it is 5 or 10 or 20. But that is me.

You must be sure this surgery is for you. I wish you luck in your choice.
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PostSubject: Re: Please Help?? would really love your feedback to help me decide on booking in the sleeve..   Sun 15 Mar 2015, 1:01 am

denzel wrote:
I think, basically, things you need to consider are:
* your age
* your current BMI
* your current activity level
* how long you have been dieting for
* what worked for you in the past
* why it isn't working now
* could it work now? (increased exercise?, change in diet?)
* current obesity related co-morbidities
* other current medical conditions that may impede weight loss or ability to exercise
* where you see yourself in 1 years time and in 5 years time if you do or don't have the surgery.

Cheers.
thanks Denzel...have answered all these questions many times and i suppose my concern is that i may be  having selective surgery that could cause long term health problems..appreciate your feedback..
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PostSubject: Re: Please Help?? would really love your feedback to help me decide on booking in the sleeve..   Fri 13 Mar 2015, 5:08 am

I think, basically, things you need to consider are:
* your age
* your current BMI
* your current activity level
* how long you have been dieting for
* what worked for you in the past
* why it isn't working now
* could it work now? (increased exercise?, change in diet?)
* current obesity related co-morbidities
* other current medical conditions that may impede weight loss or ability to exercise
* where you see yourself in 1 years time and in 5 years time if you do or don't have the surgery.

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PostSubject: Re: Please Help?? would really love your feedback to help me decide on booking in the sleeve..   Fri 13 Mar 2015, 3:43 am

Nini wrote:
Hi Maddiecandy,


1) what are the Psychological effects you go through as I've always turned to food for comfort?  I agree with DayleD that dealing with the emotional/mental aspects of your relationship with food is really important. Most surgeons have a psychologist that they refer their patients to. You can also go to your GP and ask for a health care plan that allows you to have 10 subsidized appointments with a psychologist per year. I am fairly lucky in that I am more of a boredom eater so I didn't tend to mourn food as some people do after the surgery.
2) what are the most common side effects and how long do they last?  The most common things seem to be tiredness, nausea, pain/vomiting/slimmies from overeating, dumping syndrome from eating sugar/fat, reflux, hair loss. How severe they are and how long it lasts is different for everyone. I really didn't have any pain or nausea after the first three days. In fact I went shopping with my sister on day 4. I did feel tired for the first few weeks. I had only a couple of episodes of over eating in the first couple of weeks until my head got used to the idea of how much I could eat. Haven't had any problems with Dumping or reflux. I had a small amount of hair loss between 3 months and 10 months but it didn't really bother me as I was expecting it and I knew it would stop. Just like DayleD I also got gall stones and had to have my gall bladder out 8 months after my Sleeve.
3) how do you keep healthy with such limited foods, I've noticed a fe people that have done the sleeve seem malnourished?   Most surgeons refer you to a dietitian to make sure you're eating a healthy diet. Yes, while your stomach is healing you are on a modified diet but that only lasts for a couple of months. I eat a healthy diet that includes all food groups, including the occasional treats I am  20 months post-op and can eat anything and everything. I recently had my blood tests done and they were perfect - no malnutrition here lol.
4) what can you eat in the first few months?  Your surgeon/nutritionist will give you a program that they prefer. Check out websites like http://theworldaccordingtoeggface.blogspot.com.au/2007/08/pureed-foods.html
5) how long does it take to eat a normal meal again (i realise they will be much smaller meals but how long does it take to eat a steak again?)  Most people find it takes at least a couple of months for their stomachs to heal and settle down. Certain foods can take longer to tolerate, things like steak can be tough. Slow cooker meals, stews and casseroles can be life savers. The time varies for different people. I love steak but needed plenty of gravy otherwise it would sit heavy. I think I started about 5 months.
6) how does alcohol effect things, i like to have a drink and wondering whether i will be able to do this again without effecting things.. I find that I get tipsy very fast but it wears off really fast as well. 
7) concerned about being judged and wonder whether most people are honest about the surgery?  I only told family and close friends before surgery, only because I didn't want to be answering questions while I was coping with the nerves/terror of waiting. After surgery I tell everyone the truth, I don't see the point in trying to hide my eating habits from anyone. So far I haven't have any negative comments, only curious questions. It's a matter of personal choice, what ever you feel comfortable with.
8) over all any regrets, do you miss enjoying a great meal?  I go out eating a lot. I have great meals, just small. I often order an entree and pick all the best bits off my husbands meal, lol.  Do I occasionally want to eat more - hell, yes, and then I thank my lucky stars that my Sleeve is there to control me! I am the queen of take home doggy bags. I also love ordering off the all day breakfast menus.
9) i notice lots of people put on weight over time, has anyone been able to overcome this?  Yes, it is possible to put on weight. You have to be vigilant. I know of a lot of long term Sleevers who have kept the weight off, but I know of a lot that struggle with re-gain as well. So far I have managed to maintain. 
10) i have 2 young children to care for, how long will i be out of action?  Everyone is different. But you're not allowed to lift heavy weights for 6 weeks post-op.
11) things like heartburn, hair loss, pain and nausea, is this all normal for everyone?  I don't have any heartburn, pain, or nausea. Did have a bit of hair loss but that stopped at about 10 months. 


hope this helps,
Nini
thanks Nini, thats really helpful...i appreciate it and wish you the best...
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PostSubject: Re: Please Help?? would really love your feedback to help me decide on booking in the sleeve..   Thu 12 Mar 2015, 6:56 am

Hi Maddiecandy,


1) what are the Psychological effects you go through as I've always turned to food for comfort?  I agree with DayleD that dealing with the emotional/mental aspects of your relationship with food is really important. Most surgeons have a psychologist that they refer their patients to. You can also go to your GP and ask for a health care plan that allows you to have 10 subsidized appointments with a psychologist per year. I am fairly lucky in that I am more of a boredom eater so I didn't tend to mourn food as some people do after the surgery.
2) what are the most common side effects and how long do they last?  The most common things seem to be tiredness, nausea, pain/vomiting/slimmies from overeating, dumping syndrome from eating sugar/fat, reflux, hair loss. How severe they are and how long it lasts is different for everyone. I really didn't have any pain or nausea after the first three days. In fact I went shopping with my sister on day 4. I did feel tired for the first few weeks. I had only a couple of episodes of over eating in the first couple of weeks until my head got used to the idea of how much I could eat. Haven't had any problems with Dumping or reflux. I had a small amount of hair loss between 3 months and 10 months but it didn't really bother me as I was expecting it and I knew it would stop. Just like DayleD I also got gall stones and had to have my gall bladder out 8 months after my Sleeve.
3) how do you keep healthy with such limited foods, I've noticed a fe people that have done the sleeve seem malnourished?   Most surgeons refer you to a dietitian to make sure you're eating a healthy diet. Yes, while your stomach is healing you are on a modified diet but that only lasts for a couple of months. I eat a healthy diet that includes all food groups, including the occasional treats I am  20 months post-op and can eat anything and everything. I recently had my blood tests done and they were perfect - no malnutrition here lol.
4) what can you eat in the first few months?  Your surgeon/nutritionist will give you a program that they prefer. Check out websites like http://theworldaccordingtoeggface.blogspot.com.au/2007/08/pureed-foods.html
5) how long does it take to eat a normal meal again (i realise they will be much smaller meals but how long does it take to eat a steak again?)  Most people find it takes at least a couple of months for their stomachs to heal and settle down. Certain foods can take longer to tolerate, things like steak can be tough. Slow cooker meals, stews and casseroles can be life savers. The time varies for different people. I love steak but needed plenty of gravy otherwise it would sit heavy. I think I started about 5 months.
6) how does alcohol effect things, i like to have a drink and wondering whether i will be able to do this again without effecting things.. I find that I get tipsy very fast but it wears off really fast as well. 
7) concerned about being judged and wonder whether most people are honest about the surgery?  I only told family and close friends before surgery, only because I didn't want to be answering questions while I was coping with the nerves/terror of waiting. After surgery I tell everyone the truth, I don't see the point in trying to hide my eating habits from anyone. So far I haven't have any negative comments, only curious questions. It's a matter of personal choice, what ever you feel comfortable with.
8) over all any regrets, do you miss enjoying a great meal?  I go out eating a lot. I have great meals, just small. I often order an entree and pick all the best bits off my husbands meal, lol.  Do I occasionally want to eat more - hell, yes, and then I thank my lucky stars that my Sleeve is there to control me! I am the queen of take home doggy bags. I also love ordering off the all day breakfast menus.
9) i notice lots of people put on weight over time, has anyone been able to overcome this?  Yes, it is possible to put on weight. You have to be vigilant. I know of a lot of long term Sleevers who have kept the weight off, but I know of a lot that struggle with re-gain as well. So far I have managed to maintain. 
10) i have 2 young children to care for, how long will i be out of action?  Everyone is different. But you're not allowed to lift heavy weights for 6 weeks post-op.
11) things like heartburn, hair loss, pain and nausea, is this all normal for everyone?  I don't have any heartburn, pain, or nausea. Did have a bit of hair loss but that stopped at about 10 months. 


hope this helps,
Nini
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PostSubject: Re: Please Help?? would really love your feedback to help me decide on booking in the sleeve..   Thu 12 Mar 2015, 6:48 am

QuirkyQuaintrelle wrote:
I'm Welcome aboard Maddiecandy - it sure is a roller coaster of emotions!

I'll do my best to answer your questions but remember, everyone's journey is different. 

1. I'm a comfort eater too and this aspect hasn't always been easy since surgery. Sometimes I get frustrated that I can't just pig out to avoid feelings like I used to, but it's quite simple - I'm unable to do that any more. I'm seeing a psychologist to help which has has been excellent. Basically, once I remind myself that I jus can't do that any more, the need to passes quickly.

2. Not quite sure what you mean by side effects? The only thing I can think of is that if I'm not conscious of eating slowly, I can get too full and I get the slimies (kind of like throwing up but it's just liquid). I'm nearly 5 months out and it rarely happens any more as I'm used to the quantity I can eat.

3. I try to ensure healthy food options with my limited capacity plus I take a multivitamin specifically for WLS people (Nutrichews).

4 & 5The stages I went through post-op were 2 weeks fluid, 2 weeks purée, 2 weeks soft foods. After the 6 weeks, I've been able to have a go at pretty much everything, including steak!

6. Sorry, can't help with this one as I don't drink.

7. I've been very open about my surgery as I knew that id get nothing but support from my loved ones. This is a really personal decision and I can see the pros and cons to both sides of the argument.

8. My only regret is not doing it sooner! I still enjoy great meals they're just not such big portions any more. 

9. I'm only 5 months post op so can't comment on this.

10. I don't have kids so I'm hesitant to say.  I had very little pain as such post surgery but I was tender and moved gingerly for a little while. I was also extremely tired and that lasted a few weeks.

11. I have started takin nexium for heartburn but that's right as rain now. I haven't experienced hair loss. Periods of nausea early on but nothing too bad, and no pain!

Ciao for now :-)
thanks so much..really helpful and appreciate you taking time out to answer...love that your so positive 5 months out!
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PostSubject: Re: Please Help?? would really love your feedback to help me decide on booking in the sleeve..   Thu 12 Mar 2015, 6:46 am

DayleD wrote:
Welcome to GSS!  You are going to get so many different responses to these questions, everyone is absolutely unique in how the sleeve effects them, and what your background is also effects the way you lose and go about keeping off weight, body and head.

I'll answer with my experiences:

1) what are the Psychological effects you go through as I've always turned to food for comfort?  You've probably already read the saying around here that it is an operation on your stomach, not your head.  So very true.  If you have had issues with emotional/comfort eating, you will still have emotional eating afterwards, it won't magically disappear.  That being said, confidence from losing weight and being healthier may also bring a bit more confidence and willingness to address these issues that you may have - many people see a psychologist as part of this process, for ongoing help.
2) what are the most common side effects and how long do they last?  For me the biggest 'side effect' is my ability to drink water.  To this day I find it really difficult.  Many other people experience some sort of reflux or slimeys post sleeve, I have never experienced this myself.  I have had a time or two when I've overeaten (too much) and then had to chuck up.  In 8 months this has only happened about 3 times, but it's a post sleeve side effect for me if I'm not careful.  I've also had to have my gall bladder out which is a direct result from rapid weight loss/obesity/bariatric surgery.  About 50% of sleevers seem to have an issue with this over time.
3) how do you keep healthy with such limited foods, I've noticed a fe people that have done the sleeve seem malnourished?  Again, a dietician is so very useful here.  Alot of people see one for the first year or two post sleeve.  As part of the clinic I go through I have 8 dietician visits spread out over time.  I also have a local dietician I see when I need to.  Your foods are, in general, NOT limited at all.  You can eat anything and everything you want.  Just in small portions.  You can keep healthy with the amount you eat depending on the food you choose to eat.  All sleevers will tell you that they need to take a good multi-vitamin for the rest of their life.  It's drummed into you from the surgeon appointment onwards, it's important to keep up with what you need vitamin/nutrient wise.  My surgeon/team also do blood tests at check ups to check your levels (such as Vitamin B12 and D etc) to see how things are travelling.  Those that don't see their surgeon post op very much seem to do these blood tests/check ups with their local doctors.  
4) what can you eat in the first few months?  It differs with every surgeon, amazingly enough there is no set go to guide on what you're recommended to eat post surgery.  My experience was 2 weeks fluid, 2 weeks puree, 4 weeks soft food then all food.  It will also depend on your stomach...your stomach will definitely tell you if it doesn't appreciate what you are feeding it.
5) how long does it take to eat a normal meal again (i realise they will be much smaller meals but how long does it take to eat a steak again?)  A normal meal?  I would say minimum 8 weeks.  A normal size meal??  Hopefully never again.  That way you know that your restriction is working, and it's what the sleeve is supposed to do :)  Meat and veg is generally pretty quick.  Some others have issues with certain meats (e.g chicken or steak).  I never had any issues with any sort of meat at all, or eggs.  I have read a few ideas around here and online about marinating chicken and steak very well if it doesn't sit right at first so it's alot softer etc, but I've never experienced any issues with this.
6) how does alcohol effect things, i like to have a drink and wondering whether i will be able to do this again without effecting things.. You will be able to drink again, but it will affect your weight loss.  If you're in your 'honeymoon period' you may still lose while drinking alcohol, but just not lose as much.  If you're in maintenance you may find you gain again (I have read a few stories about people gaining alot of weight again due to drinking alcohol) - it's just got so much sugar in it.  My dietician tells me again and again for me not to drink my calories, whether that be through juices or smoothies or alcohol.  
7) concerned about being judged and wonder whether most people are honest about the surgery?  I am honest, but it's really a mixed bag.  I think alot of people only tell those closest to them, totally a personal decision.  Personally I wouldn't feel right if someone else thought I'd lost all this weight from simply diet and exercise, because that simply wouldn't be true, or in my opinion, achieveable.
8) over all any regrets, do you miss enjoying a great meal?  Yes, I do.  The greatness?  Not so much, I can have a great entree somewhere :)  But the size, absolutely.  Sometimes I just want to simply pig out!  But is the sleeve worth it overall, for me?  Absolutely.  Would I do it again?  Yes.  
9) i notice lots of people put on weight over time, has anyone been able to overcome this?  You might want to check out the long term sleevers page on here to see what they have to say.  I have 3 friends outside this forum who have been sleeved (one for 5 years, one for 3.5, one for 2.5) and all of them are vigilant in their maintenance and have kept the weight off so far.  One of them put back on 8 kilos, then spent 6 months getting it off again.
10) i have 2 young children to care for, how long will i be out of action?  Can't help with this one. 
11) things like heartburn, hair loss, pain and nausea, is this all normal for everyone?  No.Generally I'd sound you are bound to experience something of these.  I'd say the majority of people on here at least experience SOME hairloss or thinning.  I didn't get heartburn, pain or nausea, but the hair loss was a bitch.

I'm not usually this blunt but I'm sleep deprived at the moment so I've kind of just put it all out there.  I do not want to be negative in the slightest about the sleeve, just honest.  Hope it helps in some way.

Cheers, DayleD
thanks so much...really appreciate your time...and love your direct responses...completely understand sleep deprivation, i have a 2 month old and a 4 year old with night terrors...4 years of no sleep for me!....thanks again and good luck with your journey...
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PostSubject: Re: Please Help?? would really love your feedback to help me decide on booking in the sleeve..   Thu 12 Mar 2015, 5:57 am

I'm Welcome aboard Maddiecandy - it sure is a roller coaster of emotions!

I'll do my best to answer your questions but remember, everyone's journey is different. 

1. I'm a comfort eater too and this aspect hasn't always been easy since surgery. Sometimes I get frustrated that I can't just pig out to avoid feelings like I used to, but it's quite simple - I'm unable to do that any more. I'm seeing a psychologist to help which has has been excellent. Basically, once I remind myself that I jus can't do that any more, the need to passes quickly.

2. Not quite sure what you mean by side effects? The only thing I can think of is that if I'm not conscious of eating slowly, I can get too full and I get the slimies (kind of like throwing up but it's just liquid). I'm nearly 5 months out and it rarely happens any more as I'm used to the quantity I can eat.

3. I try to ensure healthy food options with my limited capacity plus I take a multivitamin specifically for WLS people (Nutrichews).

4 & 5The stages I went through post-op were 2 weeks fluid, 2 weeks purée, 2 weeks soft foods. After the 6 weeks, I've been able to have a go at pretty much everything, including steak!

6. Sorry, can't help with this one as I don't drink.

7. I've been very open about my surgery as I knew that id get nothing but support from my loved ones. This is a really personal decision and I can see the pros and cons to both sides of the argument.

8. My only regret is not doing it sooner! I still enjoy great meals they're just not such big portions any more. 

9. I'm only 5 months post op so can't comment on this.

10. I don't have kids so I'm hesitant to say.  I had very little pain as such post surgery but I was tender and moved gingerly for a little while. I was also extremely tired and that lasted a few weeks.

11. I have started takin nexium for heartburn but that's right as rain now. I haven't experienced hair loss. Periods of nausea early on but nothing too bad, and no pain!

Ciao for now :-)
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PostSubject: Re: Please Help?? would really love your feedback to help me decide on booking in the sleeve..   Thu 12 Mar 2015, 5:46 am

Welcome to GSS!  You are going to get so many different responses to these questions, everyone is absolutely unique in how the sleeve effects them, and what your background is also effects the way you lose and go about keeping off weight, body and head.

I'll answer with my experiences:

1) what are the Psychological effects you go through as I've always turned to food for comfort?  You've probably already read the saying around here that it is an operation on your stomach, not your head.  So very true.  If you have had issues with emotional/comfort eating, you will still have emotional eating afterwards, it won't magically disappear.  That being said, confidence from losing weight and being healthier may also bring a bit more confidence and willingness to address these issues that you may have - many people see a psychologist as part of this process, for ongoing help.
2) what are the most common side effects and how long do they last?  For me the biggest 'side effect' is my ability to drink water.  To this day I find it really difficult.  Many other people experience some sort of reflux or slimeys post sleeve, I have never experienced this myself.  I have had a time or two when I've overeaten (too much) and then had to chuck up.  In 8 months this has only happened about 3 times, but it's a post sleeve side effect for me if I'm not careful.  I've also had to have my gall bladder out which is a direct result from rapid weight loss/obesity/bariatric surgery.  About 50% of sleevers seem to have an issue with this over time.
3) how do you keep healthy with such limited foods, I've noticed a fe people that have done the sleeve seem malnourished?  Again, a dietician is so very useful here.  Alot of people see one for the first year or two post sleeve.  As part of the clinic I go through I have 8 dietician visits spread out over time.  I also have a local dietician I see when I need to.  Your foods are, in general, NOT limited at all.  You can eat anything and everything you want.  Just in small portions.  You can keep healthy with the amount you eat depending on the food you choose to eat.  All sleevers will tell you that they need to take a good multi-vitamin for the rest of their life.  It's drummed into you from the surgeon appointment onwards, it's important to keep up with what you need vitamin/nutrient wise.  My surgeon/team also do blood tests at check ups to check your levels (such as Vitamin B12 and D etc) to see how things are travelling.  Those that don't see their surgeon post op very much seem to do these blood tests/check ups with their local doctors.  
4) what can you eat in the first few months?  It differs with every surgeon, amazingly enough there is no set go to guide on what you're recommended to eat post surgery.  My experience was 2 weeks fluid, 2 weeks puree, 4 weeks soft food then all food.  It will also depend on your stomach...your stomach will definitely tell you if it doesn't appreciate what you are feeding it.
5) how long does it take to eat a normal meal again (i realise they will be much smaller meals but how long does it take to eat a steak again?)  A normal meal?  I would say minimum 8 weeks.  A normal size meal??  Hopefully never again.  That way you know that your restriction is working, and it's what the sleeve is supposed to do :)  Meat and veg is generally pretty quick.  Some others have issues with certain meats (e.g chicken or steak).  I never had any issues with any sort of meat at all, or eggs.  I have read a few ideas around here and online about marinating chicken and steak very well if it doesn't sit right at first so it's alot softer etc, but I've never experienced any issues with this.
6) how does alcohol effect things, i like to have a drink and wondering whether i will be able to do this again without effecting things.. You will be able to drink again, but it will affect your weight loss.  If you're in your 'honeymoon period' you may still lose while drinking alcohol, but just not lose as much.  If you're in maintenance you may find you gain again (I have read a few stories about people gaining alot of weight again due to drinking alcohol) - it's just got so much sugar in it.  My dietician tells me again and again for me not to drink my calories, whether that be through juices or smoothies or alcohol.  
7) concerned about being judged and wonder whether most people are honest about the surgery?  I am honest, but it's really a mixed bag.  I think alot of people only tell those closest to them, totally a personal decision.  Personally I wouldn't feel right if someone else thought I'd lost all this weight from simply diet and exercise, because that simply wouldn't be true, or in my opinion, achieveable.
8) over all any regrets, do you miss enjoying a great meal?  Yes, I do.  The greatness?  Not so much, I can have a great entree somewhere :)  But the size, absolutely.  Sometimes I just want to simply pig out!  But is the sleeve worth it overall, for me?  Absolutely.  Would I do it again?  Yes.  
9) i notice lots of people put on weight over time, has anyone been able to overcome this?  You might want to check out the long term sleevers page on here to see what they have to say.  I have 3 friends outside this forum who have been sleeved (one for 5 years, one for 3.5, one for 2.5) and all of them are vigilant in their maintenance and have kept the weight off so far.  One of them put back on 8 kilos, then spent 6 months getting it off again.
10) i have 2 young children to care for, how long will i be out of action?  Can't help with this one. 
11) things like heartburn, hair loss, pain and nausea, is this all normal for everyone?  No.Generally I'd sound you are bound to experience something of these.  I'd say the majority of people on here at least experience SOME hairloss or thinning.  I didn't get heartburn, pain or nausea, but the hair loss was a bitch.

I'm not usually this blunt but I'm sleep deprived at the moment so I've kind of just put it all out there.  I do not want to be negative in the slightest about the sleeve, just honest.  Hope it helps in some way.

Cheers, DayleD
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PostSubject: Please Help?? would really love your feedback to help me decide on booking in the sleeve..   Thu 12 Mar 2015, 5:06 am

Hey guys...have just joined this site and there is so much great advice its almost overwhelming...


i thought i had decided to book in the surgery but after reading the journeys of so many I'm realising how drastic this surgery is and was wondering whether anyone can assist with my questions below:


1) what are the Psychological effects you go through as I've always turned to food for comfort?
2) what are the most common side effects and how long do they last?
3) how do you keep healthy with such limited foods, I've noticed a fe people that have done the sleeve seem malnourished?
4) what can you eat in the first few months?
5) how long does it take to eat a normal meal again (i realise they will be much smaller meals but how long does it take to eat a steak again?)
6) how does alcohol effect things, i like to have a drink and wondering whether i will be able to do this again without effecting things..
7) concerned about being judged and wonder whether most people are honest about the surgery?
8) over all any regrets, do you miss enjoying a great meal?
9) i notice lots of people put on weight over time, has anyone been able to overcome this?
10) i have 2 young children to care for, how long will i be out of action?
11) things like heartburn, hair loss, pain and nausea, is this all normal for everyone?


i switch between excitement and being completely scared and would really love any advice..


meeting the Doctor next week to book in a date...help please!


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