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SamiB Newbie

 Number of posts: 164 Age: 24 Location: townsville Registration date: 2010-02-06
 | Subject: Re: interested in hearing about other lapbanders experiences/journey 12/04/10, 02:21 pm | |
| Jen-e I had the same as you, the aesophagus dilating thing so the surgeon took mine out. Thankfully I also have the brilliant dr Bovey in townsV ille and Icouldn't speak more highly of him !!
I've had my band removed abouT 3 wks ago and my sleeve date is 02 June. Bring it on. I can't wait !!! And I can't stress how relieved I was to be the only one who'd "failed the band.". The stats speak for themselves !!!!
Apologies for typos. I'm on my iPhone. Lol _________________ Date of Banding - 13/02/2008 Band Removal - 10/03/2010 Date of Sleeve - 02/06/2010 BRING IT !!!!!!!!!!!

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jen-e Part of the furniture

 Number of posts: 342 Location: Brissy Registration date: 2010-03-02
 | Subject: Re: interested in hearing about other lapbanders experiences/journey 24/03/10, 03:10 pm | |
| OMG Lisab! Your band doc was so negligent! I cant believe some of these rude ignorant creatures! So pleased to hear you are doing so well with your sleeve.
Fatnomore , I had oesophageal dysmotility from my band being too tight ( a result of my doc putting in a lot of fill, saying "that'll teach you" when I told him I didn't have good restriction).
Anyway, I wound up at the emergency department thinking I was having a heart attack with severe central chest pain radiating up along my jaw & both sides of my tongue. Evidently in some people the dysmotility can cause angina like pain. Wasn't I the lucky one! The barium swallow I had also showed I had some other dysfunction with swallowing at the top of my oesophagus but I dont know the ins & outs of that cos the doc didnt explain any of it to me. Also reflux and the beginning of a dilated oesophagus near my pouch.
Bugger bloody bands. Thank god mine is GONE! Two months til my sleeve! Yay!
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Peazles Part of the furniture

 Number of posts: 341 Location: Victoria Registration date: 2010-02-14
 | Subject: Re: interested in hearing about other lapbanders experiences/journey 10/03/10, 08:37 pm | |
| I got blamed for my bands failure, too. Often my surgeon would make some derogatory remark or another while I was still walking out of the waiting room for my appointment (he would say later it was his sense of humour) - which would result in me very loudly losing my temper in front of all the patients in the waiting room. I'm pretty sure I put a few off banding! Even his nurse assistant would say he was out of line (when he'd left the room). Victim blaming with failed lap bands is huge. |
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lisab Part of the furniture

 Number of posts: 224 Age: 46 Location: melbourne Registration date: 2008-09-04
 | Subject: Re: interested in hearing about other lapbanders experiences/journey 10/03/10, 08:26 pm | |
| Blaming the patient for problems with the band seems to be the norm by band DRs!! I had my first band in for 3 years and lost 20kgs by vomiting all the time and spent a lot of time in hospital on drips after 24/48 hour vomit sessions where all the fill would be removed and I would then have to start again getting filled and then unfilled. After a really bad three months of vomiting and a couple of long hospital stays, I begged Prof O'Brien ,many times as he always said I was doing something wrong ie;"stuffing my face with cream cakes and biscuits"(which I wasnt doing) in the end I took my husband in with me and he insisted that something be done and I was sent for an xray where I ate some bread during it and promptly threw up all over the machine and they finally had to admit that the band had slipped. It was replaced the next day, but the second one was much worse than the first band as I could not tolerate any fill at all everything got stuck even liquids, so all the weight plus 20kgs more went back on in the following 3 yrs (I also had to have a flipped port replaced). After 6 of the worst years of my life my health had deteriorated badly and all Prof O'Brien was willing to do was a; leave the band in with no fill and just forget its there, b; replace the band again and hope "that I learn how to eat better" or c; remove the band completely. I chose 'c' of course and was sleeved 3 months later by a new surgeon. My sleeve surgery took 5 hours thanks to all the adhesions from the bands but also because I had a huge Hiatus Hernia which Prof O'Brien forgot to mention and didnt repair when he removed the band even though he knew I was having major problems with reflux. My sleeve surgeon was really shocked to see the Hernia as it was not mentioned at all in the Profs surgery report (especially as the hernia was caused by all the vomiting with the band). Anyway I love my sleeve and have lost more in 3 mths than I did in 6 yrs and my health has improved so much my GP cant believe it.. Doctors push the band because its a surgery which keeps lining their pockets for years where as the sleeve is one surgery and thats it , thats why they are pushing for the band to be done in public hospitals, can you imagine how much money they will make!!!!
Lisab _________________
 Band in 2003 114kgs Band out 2009 122kgs Sleeve Day 30/11/2009 Weight when sleeved 116kgs First Goal 99kgs Second Goal 80kgs Goal Weight 70kgs |
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fatnomore Part of the furniture
 Number of posts: 387 Location: Melbourne Registration date: 2009-12-30
 | Subject: Re: interested in hearing about other lapbanders experiences/journey 10/03/10, 08:21 pm | |
| http://www.lapband.com/en/learn_about_lapband/safety_information/Patients can experience complications after surgery. Most complications are not serious but some may require hospitalization and/or re-operation. In the United States clinical study, with 3-year follow-up reported, 88% of the 299 patients had one or more adverse events, ranging from mild, moderate, to severe. Nausea and vomiting (51%), gastroesophageal reflux (regurgitation) (34%), band slippage/pouch dilatation (24%) and stoma obstruction (stomach-band outlet blockage) (14%) were the most common post-operative complications. In the study, 25% of the patients had their band systems removed, two-thirds of which were following adverse events. Esophageal dilatation or dysmotility (poor esophageal function) occurred in 11% of patients, the long-term effects of which are currently unknown. Constipation, diarrhea and dysphagia (difficulty swallowing) occurred in 9% of the patients. In 9% of the patients, a second surgery was needed to fix a problem with the band or initial surgery. In 9% of the patients, there was an additional procedure to fix a leaking or twisted access port. The access port design has been improved. Four out of 299 patients (1.3%) had their bands erode into their stomachs. These bands needed to be removed in a second operation. Surgical techniques have evolved to reduce slippage. Surgeons with more laparoscopic experience and more experience with these procedures report fewer complications. SCARY! |
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darkstar Top Poster


 Number of posts: 1145 Location: Adelaide Registration date: 2010-01-11
 | Subject: Re: interested in hearing about other lapbanders experiences/journey 10/03/10, 02:24 pm | |
| | issi wrote: | | They have ...to try and place blame on the patients to help get Medicare to fund more bands... |
Aha! That explains the widespread blame-the-patient syndrome. Thanks issi!_________________ Not for re-publication without permission of the author.
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issi Part of the furniture

 Number of posts: 224 Location: Melbourne Registration date: 2009-07-12
 | Subject: Re: interested in hearing about other lapbanders experiences/journey 10/03/10, 01:53 pm | |
| Instead of looking at french figures why dont you just look at allergens (the makers of lap bands) own figures for Australia.
The average outcome is 40% excess weight loss at 5 years... that includes all the people that lost down to skinny minny size 6's or 8's as well as those that gained weight...then they average those figures. And the average says you'll still be obese.
20% of lap bands have complications that require replacement after 2 years. The practice I went through it was closer to 70% at 10 years be it a port revision erosion slip etc. Ask a raidoloy person that works with lap banders - you'll be hard pressed to find one that has seen a band without a problem - at least that is what i was told when i was going through problems.
They have the tidy up the statistics and try and place blame on the patients to help get Medicare to fund more bands.... do you realise what a drain it would be on Medicare with so many complications and extra operations. Dear god i feel sorry for people even considering a band. I had mine successfully for 5 years. I feel like an idiot recommending it to so many people after how badly it stuffed up my body. Yes I was a success but at what price? Weight gained back stomach and other organs permanently damaged.
You know what the all hail the mighty prof o'brien wanted to do to me? put another frigin band on me to fix what the last one had done. OMG no way!
Sorry but i wouldn't recommend it to my worst enemy. _________________ Issi

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darkstar Top Poster


 Number of posts: 1145 Location: Adelaide Registration date: 2010-01-11
 | Subject: Re: interested in hearing about other lapbanders experiences/journey 10/03/10, 11:11 am | |
| | Keridwyn wrote: | | My surgeon said the failure/issue rate for the band at 10 years was 40%. |
I think that 40% statistic is coming out of France. Two things to observe: a) I have no idea what kinds of surgery they're dealing with there; b) brie, camembert, cream & butter in all forms, pastry, chocolate, liver of force-fed duck, red wine etc are dietary staples there (not seen as treats or "sometimes foods"). If there were ever a country where the band was going to fail for social / peer pressure reasons, it's France.
What I've heard (emphasis on the unreliable anecdote here) about Australia is a 10% "revision" rate annually (eg 10% of bands performed in 2002 are removed by 2004), but nobody seems to be looking back further than 5 years. That means 90% non-revision, which is pretty good. Let's hope that's you, Perthjo! That said, I've heard surgeons conceding that even for people who find the bands good, the bands themselves may wear out after 10 years and need to be replaced.
Statistics aside, I've chosen the sleeve as my first WLS because I've been able to observe a less successfully banded person up close, and I don't like what I'm seeing. Nothing medically complicated, but psychologically problematic: surgical bulimia with slow weight loss (20 kg over 2 years. Better than gaining 20 kg over 2 years, but not a great result considering the negative lifestyle impact). My reading of the bandits' forums indicates that this is a quite common outcome that may not be showing up in the "revision" statistics. I'm also very cynical about anything that involves me in an ongoing comittment to pay for fills, check ups, revisions etc.
If you want medical horror stories related to the band, Helen 64 has terrible one you can read about on the Adelaide Meet Up thread (go back a few pages). (If you contact Helen, go gently: she's very sad about it, as she should be).
Best,
Dark_________________ Not for re-publication without permission of the author.
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Keridwyn Newbie

 Number of posts: 160 Age: 47 Location: New Zealand Registration date: 2009-05-03
 | Subject: Re: interested in hearing about other lapbanders experiences/journey 10/03/10, 04:34 am | |
| My surgeon said the failure/issue rate for the band at 10 years was 40%. _________________ First Visit 21/04/09 112kg, Start OptiFast 103kg, Surgery 17/6/09 97kg Current - 82kg, Goal 66kg, Height 5ft2in

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nimue Part of the furniture

 Number of posts: 385 Age: 55 Location: Corrigin W.A. Registration date: 2009-10-13
 | Subject: Re: interested in hearing about other lapbanders experiences/journey 09/03/10, 10:56 pm | |
| I know that for some people it works, especially in the first few years, but i'm curious to know, how many of us have had problems like myself, who has had 4 ops, leakage, vomiting, faulty band, limited weight loss, no support, and slippage. I to am glad to have it gone. _________________  Created by MyFitnessPal.com - Free Calorie CounterLocation: Corrigin WA Age: "old enough to know how, and old enough to know better" Weight when refered by GP: 122kls Goal weight: 75kls Height: 165cm Lapband removal 2 February 2010 Surgeon: Mr Alan Thomas sleeved 10 june 2010[url] |
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Jillybean Top Poster


 Number of posts: 867 Age: 59 Location: Sunshine Coast Registration date: 2008-12-28
 | Subject: Re: interested in hearing about other lapbanders experiences/journey 09/03/10, 10:45 pm | |
| Hi Terri
I had my lapband out after approx 2 years under emergency conditions. I had started vomiting and couldn't keep anything down not even water. The operation lasted 5 and half hours and I have a 10cm scar down my stomach with heaps of scar tissure because of this. The lapband had wrapped around all my major organs in my body and it took the surgeon all that time to unravel the band. I nearly died - the surgeon told me he was very worried and I was in Intensive care for 5 days after. Similiar story to Helen who has her story on this forum only she has been told she can never have the gastric sleeve. Seven years later I found the wonderful Dr Bovey in Townsville who said he would attempt to do the gastric sleeve on me. I was his only patient that day in case it was going to take longer. My gastric surgery took 3 and a half hours because he had to work through all the adhesions caused by the previous operation. All I can say is that 'I love my sleeve' and so pleased to have that damn foreign object out of my body. hugs Jilly _________________ Sleeved 5th November 2008 Start weight: 130 kgs Current Weight: 95kg
The MOTH Sleeved: 20/07/09 Start Weight: 145kg Sleeved Weight: 135kg Current Weight: 107kg
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PerthJo Top Poster


 Number of posts: 1082 Age: 47 Location: WA Registration date: 2009-10-01
 | Subject: Re: interested in hearing about other lapbanders experiences/journey 09/03/10, 10:13 pm | |
| Hi Terri, as you know I was banded last March. My journey has gone along well and I have lost 30kg so far. I am keeping up to date on all the posts on bands that have gone wrong to make sure I'm aware if anything starts with mine (I pray that it doesnt). Not long now before your next journey  _________________ cheers Jo

1st goal: To lose weight for my daughters wedding 21st Nov - done! 2nd goal: To get down to Dr's goal weight 80kgs - on the move again..yay! 3rd goal: To get to my goal weight 77kgs - will get there!!!! SW 113kg DOB 27th March 09 GW 75kg |
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nimue Part of the furniture

 Number of posts: 385 Age: 55 Location: Corrigin W.A. Registration date: 2009-10-13
 | Subject: interested in hearing about other lapbanders experiences/journey 09/03/10, 04:20 pm | |
| I'm interested in hearing about other lapbanders experiences/journey. What happened? Have you had it removed, why? _________________  Created by MyFitnessPal.com - Free Calorie CounterLocation: Corrigin WA Age: "old enough to know how, and old enough to know better" Weight when refered by GP: 122kls Goal weight: 75kls Height: 165cm Lapband removal 2 February 2010 Surgeon: Mr Alan Thomas sleeved 10 june 2010[url] |
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